that's why you'll see so much time spent by governor romney and congressman romney before the debate. denver is out of reach in ohio for governor romney and now it's a very, very close race. it's anywhere from president obama with a slight lead, so it will come down to the wire. >> karen, when you break down the ohio numbers further. it's interesting when you look especially at those who will vote early, the obama folks win about six out of ten early voters, but losing those who say they're going to vote on election day, 44 to 51, romney to 51. what's the story there, is it potentially that the obama campaign is peaking too early with the early voters? >> i don't think so. i think that's great spin from the romney campaign, and if i was in the romney campaign i would probably be saying that as well. early voters tend to be what we call sporadic voters. it's a different universe of voters than those that vote on election day. they're people who don't necessarily vote on any election, presidential, midterm, you name it. so by targeting people, the sporadic voters to get them out to vote